Wouldn’t work at all against TV-homing missiles. That’s because ALL current surface ships are woefully under-defended. The Artisan is a mature system granted but it is still useful. It would be nice to have, but it doesn’t even cover all the major English cities and doesn’t even go to Wales or Scotland. Each launcher can carry 16 CAMMs and they can be replenished at sea, which is a huge plus in wartime. If this is the case, why do we not design one that fixes these issues and provides a next generation solution? But I believe it’s to do with our debt rating and the interest rate applied to the debt we take on; if we’re seen as irresponsible with our borrowing then we’ll be rated poorly, the interest rate will go up on our loans, we won’t be able to prove that we can service them, and we won’t be able to balance the books at all. sea skimmers). Not countries that do. T42’s used to regularly win ASW competitions. (I’m not sure if the QE and PoW have either) What about the Scutter torpedo countermeasure? Apart from software enhancements, there has yet to be any hardware improvements announced by BAe. Fair enough. Its abilities were demonstrated in 2015 when the radar at the Thales site in Holland tracked a missile fired from the Hebrides before it disappeared over the Atlantic’s horizon. I really don’t see a benefit in having twin rotary cannons, especially as they are fixed to each other, so cannot adjust convergence for range. With IAS on the weapon and near max IAS on TnT, the Hasteful rune should be all you need to get to the 2.40001 BP. Here we look at the history, design and capabilities of this system. And if HVPs can be made to work against anti-ship missiles at 80+km that would be the best solution out of the 3. Well as I said, if a new system is placed on a ship at short notice, then there are going to be teething problems and the crew won’t have time to familiarise themselves with the system. It either needs to be drastically improved or replaced. This Database is currently set to show world data for Patch 1.12. used only PFHE up to 4km. As do microwave weapons, EW suites, HVPs for main naval guns, Oerlikon Millennium Guns, OTO Melara 76mm guns, SSTD, Scutter and sub-hunting surface drones (e.g. The reason for this is that Martlet/Starstreak is a semi-active command line of sight (SACLOS) guided system, rather than fire and forget. Arcims, Seagull). “Admittedly, the most fired at any one time was 5. that’s why I’m a fan of commonality in all things, as bringing operational costs down makes our armed forces more affordable in a budget-constrained world. Development of the Vulcan Phalanx began in the 1960s as the US Navy woke up to the threat of the sea-skimmers after the destruction of Israeli destroyer Eilat by Russian-made Styx missiles in 1967. So there’s scope for further development of a CTAS 40 plus Martlet/Starstreak combination. ), presumably the T26s and T45s, the 57 mm and 40 mm on the T31, as well as the gatling guns and 50 cals that can be mounted for dealing with small boat swarms, and the ASMs that are fitted to T45s and T23s. Could be used against fast attack craft, but would be best reserved to deal with missiles. Any manned attack craft with anti-ship missiles and/or torpedoes would fire them before getting within 1km of a RN ship. And in any case, see my previous comment. The purpose of the amphibious ships of the Bay and Albion class is get marines/army ashore or to recover them. 100mm is also capable of genuine NGFS (76mm is somewhat marginal). This would also free up Merlins for ASW duties. That’s utterly insane. You need to be more specific. Well firstly any pilot who flies in range of any ship-based defences needs his head examining and secondly why do you say that? Interesting. And thirdly, if we’re not preparing for the worst case scenario, which is a war with Russia and/or China, then what are we doing? I’d like something a bit more official than that to know for certain. The British Army deployed LPWS to protect Basra Airport, Iraq in 2007. I’m pretty sure that’s the best explanation of CEC that I’ve seen, appreciate that! A UAV drone swarm could easily overwhelm Phalanx as could 2 or more anti-ship missiles. Wow! “That is no reason not to improve with dazzlers, Dragonfire etc. When assessing the effectiveness of Phalanx, it should be seen as one part of a layered defence system. For RFA ships Phalanx is still very viable as a result of the RFA lack of appropriate Radar (Fire control, surveillance etc). You can purchase these mounts from Ogunaro Wolfrunner in the Valley of Honor in Orgrimmar so long as your character has riding skill of 75 (obtainable at level 20). Chinese ships can fire YJ-18 anti-ship missiles. I couldn’t agree more, I know there are those with good arguments who would disagree but I’d go as far as replacing Aster 15 with CAMM-ER… As far as land attack goes, you make a fair point which I concede; if you’re going to diversify at all then perhaps more ASMs would be the way forward. Ideally though these gun-based systems would be deck-penetrating to enable them to be auto-reloaded. I agree deck-penetration (and quick auto-reloading) would be ideal in the event of a saturation attack. If you had seen a missile or three launched you would know that. If T45 is s a specialist aerospace defence and air control unit then you can argue that it doesn’t need a decent capability in other spheres. A quick look at USS G.R Ford shows us she has 3 Phalanx, 2 RAMs & 2 ESSMs; that is pretty good. This could potentially make the difference in wartime between a ship surviving and getting sunk: https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/29335/this-bolt-on-launcher-can-give-nearly-any-ship-the-same-weaponry-as-u-s-navy-destroyer. Text above picture of USS King and Block 0 Phalanx, The Type 22 HMS Broadsword and Brilliant both had 2 x 1 40mm/L60 Mark 9 guns but obviously Sea Wolf was their best defence 🙂, Phalanx is getting old now, dont get me wrong the mount and sensors are great but the M61 is the limiting factor. For the record, also, my intention was not to criticise the Burkes in my previous comment. But there are also the issues with targetting systems interfering with the flight management and other comms that are on a carrier, as well as the risk to aircraft nearby (I understand they normally have a SAR chopper up when doing air ops and suchlike). World of Warcraft on Reddit! – Develop much longer ranged anti-ship missiles to take out Russian and Chinese ships before they can get in range to fire Kalibr, Oniks or YJ-18 anti-ship missiles. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the mount from the Violet Mistake is also farmable, right? The argument that the Type 45s will protect them fails to consider the Carriers escorts being sunk, the Type 45 has serious deficiencies in ASuW and ASW that can and will be exploited. And also ridiculously short-sighted and utterly negligent. Anyway, what’s done is done and we have 2 STOVL carriers. Our carriers are wide open to saturation attack— the least we can do is equip them with modern missiles too. “I’d agree about the Aster 30NT, it makes sense and I believe that it is being progressed in fact.”, “All of our surface warships are equipped the Sea Sentor system already, which is similar in concept to SCUTTER”. Indeed. This would be vital in the event of a saturation attack, especially considering how expensive anti-air missiles are and how few of them a ship can carry. Without their paltry 12 CAMMs they’re just overgrown, ridiculously expensive OPVs (compare them to the Danish Iver Huitfeldt-class they’re based on and tell me we’re not getting ripped off). This article is a full list of mounts currently available to players, that appear in the Mounts And Pets list. As should any navy in its right mind. ; 88 mounts exclusive to Alliance characters. The Millennium Gun is effective up to 5km and has a high rate of fire. We won’t be able to buy MQ-25 refuelling drones when they’re ready because the carriers don’t have cats & traps. The 76mm has a low rate of fire, but is longer ranged: DART 8km, PFF 16km. They should be cheap, easy to manufacture and we’d need the ability to manufacture them quickly in vast numbers. They’re highly unlikely to hit a ship. This is a Tailoring Ability. Typo “20 mm Bofors” Im sure these are the GAM guns you are refering too. Of course tests would need to be carried out to prove this and so I’d like realistic tests to be carried out on any weapons like the Millennium Gun and OTO Melara 76mm to see if they work as advertised before the RN buys any. ASMs in cannisters- and the newest Burkes are FFBNW them as it goes. Well I think using them for AEW and refuelling is a no-brainer. “As far as ADL goes, my understanding is that it’s basically a Mk41 cell on its side, so that it’s modular and doesn’t have to penetrate into the ship?” Sounds right to me. Spear 3 on the other hand is just over 2m long in its transit container. In return for the Dutch Navy purchasing UK-made Spey gas turbines, the RN later also adopted the Hollandse Singnaalapparaten (now Thales) Goalkeeper 30mm CIWS for some vessels between 1988-2015. I don’t know the answer to that, but Horizon’s systems could feasibly be more power hungry than T45’s, thus requiring more power generation for the same performance. Welcome to Vanilla WoW DB, a database for World of Wacraft Classic and Vanilla WoW! “These systems operate using very specific sensors, advanced decision making software, and then emit signals (in acoustic ranges for anti-torpedo systems, and RF for missiles). 5 units were initially leased from the US Army but later replaced by units converted by Raytheon from the RN’s Phalanx inventory. The ability to act as a self contained CIWS is lacking considerably compared to the Phalanx, as it does not have an onboard fire control radar. Yet none of our ships have them. With respect, the T45 doesn’t have serious deficiencies in in ASuW and ASW, because those aren’t their mission. “The Phalanx at least has AP rounds and a very good targeting system that’s relatively well maintained and kept up to date.”. I’m not sure either. “thanks to frequent updates which is yet another benefit of it being non-deck-penetrating (which means it will be better maintained too).”. Plus it would be good if TLAMs could be fired from aircraft, especially the F-35B. Not that this can’t be overcome, just that it’s not like there aren’t any downsides to missile systems. If a Tsirkon is using “plasma stealth” it cannot be radar guided…plasma wont let radar in but it also wont let a homing radar out If it is surrounded by a plasma. Against a fast missile there would be no time for a second attempt. I repeat, our vessels are not under-armed compared to their NATO peers. The beach may be mined and covered in razor wire and anti-tank obstacles. Harriers with Sidewinders in the Falklands proved that despite being subsonic. Scutter basically makes a torpedo chase it until it runs out of power. I would be happy with our CVs having 4 Phalanx (why its 3 on a ship that size with 4 corners i don’t know) and say 16 Sea Ceptors. 57mm over the bows at just over 4 rps; lighter 40mm of course by hanger but totalling 2 x 5rps over the stern. 24 CAMMs with a range of 25km would be better than SeaRAM. So its defence on the cheap again but billions for the Nanny State. “but what with budgets the way they are, we’re lucky to get the ships at all.”. I think Phalanx is outdated and there are far better alternatives these days like the Oerlikon Millennium Gun and the Thales RAPIDSeaGuardian. Well the RBS-15, NSM and JSM all have a land attack capability. Unlike the USN, the RN is rather strict about having specific and specialised mission sets for their different classes of vessel; a T45 isn’t a direct comparison to a Burke. Comment by Thottbot The only spawns I've run into are 1) Spawns when all the Relic Coffers are opened; 2) A spawn in a different area (the hallway towards the patrolling named and a bunch of golems) of a few non-named and one named when the portrait is opened. HMS Sutherland(ASW), is another T23 which has still got Sea Wolf, but is due LIFEX at end of year, and with PGMU as well. So with 18 F-35Bs we could launch 6 a day. Support ships could also do with Oerlikon Millennium Guns, microwave weapons and the Scutter torpedo countermeasure (I assume they’d need to also be fitted with towed array sonar for Scutter to work so maybe something like Swordfish). Fitting IRIS-T missiles to F-35s would make a lot of sense imo. Part of the installation would also include the Martlet/Starstreak module. I can’t see a missile surviving that. They’re too underarmed and under-defended to be used anywhere else or to form part of a carrier group despite their size. That is unless the cut the capability soon! It did indeed utilise the same propulsion system as the T22 (apparently not a suitable choice for ASW as it turned out, which compromised the T22), and also the same hull-mounted sonar (no tails and no decoys, though). What they do carry that the T45 doesn’t are short range torpedo tubes, but my understanding is that there is a big question regarding their utility against subs launching heavyweight torpedoes from outside the range of the smaller torps. The Kronos radar is already integrated with the land PAAMS. I don’t know if they’ve ever been tested against anti-ship missiles. “I’ll still stick with the RBS-15, purely because the LRASM is stupidly expensive and we’re getting Perseus soon, but I’ll accept your point that if money were no object then LRASM would be a decent idea.”. Only the Predatory Plagueroc and Horrid Dreadwing appear to be lootable regardless of covenant. And the Type 31s are an absolute joke imo: only 12 CAMMs, no anti-ship missiles, no Griffin missiles, no sonar, no SSTD, no DS30Ms (which could be enhanced with LMMs when they’re ready) and no CIWS. They are reasonable likely to have their own directors fitted and so be a much more capable anti-missile system. Sampson is still considered top dog, but it has a number of young pretenders snapping at its heels, with CEFAR, SM400, Kronos and SPY6. Yeah you’re right, it’s metaphors that never get fired from carriers! “Plus I’m sure there are already plenty of studies and implementation plans for things like SeaRAM to be acquired and fitted at short notice.”. “I would personally consider a hard-kill secondary option if you wanted to go with two systems, although there have been difficulties with them as you say.”. I am. That’s an insane approach to take. As I said, the government had no problem finding hundreds of billions to bail out the banks, did it? “And so long as they can work out how not to interrupt flight ops, 1 or 2 of the 8-cell Sylver launchers on the carriers would give the capacity for 32 or 64 missiles, which would be plenty should any missiles ever make it through all the escorts.”. This would need an enhancement to the systems processing, plus addition power supplies and cooling. As a low cost solution, I think adding the T23’s systems would be a huge benefit to the amphibs, but it all depends on what happens to the T23s when they retire. The current layers of defence of a carrier group are: We could improve on the current situation though by implementing any of the following: “Currently CAMM-ER is still under development so isn’t really an option”, Really? Unfortunately, Sea Wolf was expensive, had a large equipment footprint and had only been fitted to a handful of frigates when the Falklands war unexpectedly erupted in April 1982. Well I agree with that, but it’s gross negligence. Sea Ceptor uses cold launch for CAMM, so is putting Sea Ceptor on the QE and POW an issue? The lack of continuity results in a lack of familiarity and constantly changes priorities. Couldn’t agree more. “or on the Army or RAF (as they are in need new tanks and planes and on the front line more frequently than the Navy lately)”. I’d agree with the concept of a StingROC (just throwing a name out there? All ships should be adequately defended at all times. If I remember correctly Invincible fried several Sea Dart during the Falklands. The orange discarding sabots are clearly visible. Why would coming over the bow reduce the rpm? Also BOFORs is now a part of BAE and OtoBreda is now Leonardo, the 76mm guns that Leonardo make also have 3P available. The plasma Stealth as you rightly stated blinds any potential guidance system apart from Inertial guidance for land attack. If we oiled BAEs pipes with some modest R&D money, and dangled the carrot of purchases for all our vessels, surely they would be interested. The Millennium gun at least has the advantage of being self-contained, but I’m also not sure AHEAD or PFF ammo are really credible when talking about hypersonic anti-ship missiles (the reason for looking for alternatives to Phalanx, for the greater range) because just destroying control surfaces might not be sufficient against such targets as it is against subsonic cruise missiles and aircraft. They all need uparming and need to be better defended. The general purpose round holds twice as much explosive as a standard 40mm round and the anti-air round contains significantly more tungsten. Oerlikon Millennium Guns, OTO Melara 76mm guns and anti-air missiles). If a ship commissioned in 2003 can’t take out an old subsonic anti-ship missile then something is seriously wrong. There should be no half-measures because half-measures result in sunk ships and they get people needlessly killed. For Gun based CIWS I would go with the Mark 4 Bofors 40mm…3P is a big selling point, it can be used with a variety of FCS and could cover the 30mm Bushmasters job too (Millenium gun also fits nicely but the RN appear to want Mk 4 Bofors). How is it initiated, then maintained and for how long? You can see them pretty well in this slow-mo footage of the firing trials. Maybe time to look at phasing Phalanx out in favour of the 40mm Mk 4 going on the Type 31, both to reduce the range of systems/calibers in service and to provide the range and punch the former clearly lacks. I could be wrong though. That’s a lot of Arleigh Burkes and a lot of missiles. I’ve tried to copy the link to the press release in December 2014 but it didn’t work. What and not put any missiles on the carriers at all? We sent ships to the Falklands with no CIWS for crying out loud. After all, even the USN and USMC park Avenger systems and suchlike on the decks of their vessels in some situations. Atlantic Conveyor) and lost ships because they either didn’t have any CIWS or in some cases because they didn’t have the most up-to-date anti-air missiles or the most up-to-date targeting radars. They could….best to have the main radar and the E/O tied to the guns (modern mounts like Mark 4 Bofors and Millenium Gun use open architecture to mate with many FCS) If you needed the 40mm guns to have their own FCS then Leonardo Single Fast Forty comes in 3 flavours (A-Fully slaved to the Combat management, B-same as A but with inmount gunners position and C-Same as A but has addition micro fire control system). In addition, we have at least one weapon that shoul dbe coming out of FC/ASW that will be a Sylver fit (we’d have to lobby hard and pay our own way for Mk41 integration in the hopes that the cost would be covered by later export success to a Mk41 country, or split the cost of Aster integration with France and know we could sell the weapons to the other Euro coutnries as well as Saudi who also use Aster). How do I get a mount in WoW? The C-802 according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YJ-83 has a range of 120km (approx 65 nautical miles), is subsonic (Mach 0.9) and uses active radar homing. Adding Mk41 VLS would mean that Type 45s could also carry TLAMs, anti-ship missiles, anti-sub missiles and quad-packed CAMMs. [Tyrael's Charger] was a bonus for players that signed up in 2011 for the World of Warcraft Annual Pass. I was thinking in line with that philosophy. Do the carriers have EW suites? That’s why I asked if positioning Sea Ceptor below a carrier’s flight deck would be doable. “Trying to launch missiles in such a physically and RF-cluttered environment would be far more complicated than from a T45 on picket, at least several hundred metres away.” Yeah but all other countries with carriers have anti-air missiles on them. Lots of precious F-35’s would go up in smoke. I would, however, say that the reality (for all countries) is that this is simply not how budgets are run.”. This link says nothing about it being under development: https://www.mbda-systems.com/product/camm-er/, “and while it should be good (if ASRAAM is anything to go by) Aster is in another league when it comes to performance”, “which goes a long way to cover the disparity in missile numbers between European escorts and US with larger numbers of less accurate missiles.”. This should be the absolute minimum baseline for any Type 45 imo. Description. Quad-packed CAMMs in the Mk41 cells would provide a useful second layer of defence (and ideally CAMM-ER if it can be quad-packed). Well they certainly lack range and so they’re a last-ditch defensive measure. The Type 26s need to be built to a higher spec when it comes to defences. SeaSpider, MU90 Hard Kill, SSTD CAT). Admittedly, the most fired at any one time was 5. Anything would be an improvement over Harpoon, although LRASM is stealthy, whereas RBS-15 isn’t. If I were you I would go to read about how the roles of T41, T61, and T12 were rolled up into T12(M) / Leander. Again Ospreys could perform this task. I think we bought 28 kits for the B1B Baseline 2 upgrade but I do not know were they went, or if any more were bought. Phalanx remains an affordable (because we already have it) way to add some extra protection against a limited set of specific threats might be more truthful ? Due to the requirement for fast reaction times they would fire off the missiles without going through the air commander. Someone doesn’t like your comment, Sam. Thirdly, that PDF was released in 2018, which is the same year that CAMM entered service. Which fixed armaments are you thinking of? World of Warcraft on Reddit! But I believe it’s to do with our debt rating and the interest rate applied to the debt we take on; if we’re seen as irresponsible with our borrowing then we’ll be rated poorly, the interest rate will go up on our loans, we won’t be able to prove that we can service them, and we won’t be able to balance the books at all.”, https://www.economicshelp.org/blog/334/uk-economy/uk-national-debt/. It’s also worth considering that all this talk comparing weapons systems has so far ignored one thing; the air defence fit out on the Burkes is the only one that has been successfully combat tested against live ASMs fired in anger. Should HMS Queen Elizabeth be fitted with her own missile defences? I agree that any vessel going into harm’s way needs to be adequately defended, but towed array sonar is excessive. That said, RAM only has a range of 10km, so I assume SeaRAM has the same range and SeaRAM only has 11 missiles. A Hot spot deck STOVL carrier with F-35Bs close by, is the last place you would put RAM! It’s not just the launch, I don’t know enough about the different launching ystems to know if a cold launch creates debris still or not. – Fit Type 23s and Type 26s with sub-hunting surface drones like Arcims and Seagull, ideally fitted with torpedo launchers and data-linked to the ASW Merlins and the ships that launched them. Fair enough, but if we start upgrading all existing RN and RFA ships to the same baseline now and build new ships (Type 26, Type 31) to that same baseline, then we will have commonality of equipment between ships, and into the future as well. I think 6 LRASMs complemented by cheaper anti-ship missiles would be the best bet, e.g. Of course the only way to know which system works best against anti-ship missiles is to test them all against a variety of missiles: Improved Phalanx, Oerlikon Millennium Gun, Thales RAPIDSeaGuardian, OTO Melara 76mm, Bofors 40mm Mk4, Bofors 57mm Mk110, HVPs fired from main naval guns. Plus it would be a one-off payment anyway (not including upgrades over the years of course). that’s why I’m a fan of commonality in all things”. The CTAS along with a programmable general purpose round also has a dedicated anti-air round. I’d like to see all RN and RFA ships fitted with the Scutter torpedo countermeasure to make them more survivable against subs or aircraft-launched torpedoes. Imo Phalanx is woefully inadequate in this day and age depite its upgrades over the years. Although the Argentines surrendered on the Falklands Islands on 14 June, hostilities had not formally ceased. In an ideal world of unlimited resources, every frontline vessel would have a complete set of equipment and not be subject to STOROB. HVPs fired from main guns might be able to take out anti-ship missiles at range, but I’d like tests to be done to establish if this is actually the case. Both have a 4000m effective range, although both can fire well past 10km. “Neither the NSM, JSM, LRASM, nor the RBS-15 will fit internally on an F-35B”. Currently air-launched missiles like the Russian Kh-95MK2 (range 550km) and P-800 Oniks (range 600km – 800km depending on variant) can be fired at ships from beyond the range of Aster 30. The other advantage is that Aster/Viper be an active RF guided missile also has a secondary passive function, where it can home on a transmitter, so long as it’s within in band range. I don’t think even you know what you’re talking about. If you were to fit one to an OPV, 40mm definitely. “I know that debt is treated differently for countries than you or I would for personal debt, but I don’t know exactly why governments do seek to limit debt. The Germans and Dutch with the Sachsen-class frigate De Zeven Provinciën-class frigate. For simplicity Phalanx does not rely on sophisticated IFF transponder systems for target discrimination, instead, every contact is assessed using closed-loop heuristic software. That’s the equivalent of stating that the carriers are deficient in ASW. “AS far as individual class fitouts, that is always a major topic, but having looked at it I don’t think our escorts come off badly when you really drill the numbers down.” Um, not sure what you mean by “when you really drill the numbers down”. I've seen non NIght Fae get it. That’s just my opinion, based as much on keeping and boosting domestic manufacturing as anythign else. 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